My Intro, late but over due.

[99Superhawk]

Ok so since people cant remember their wrong doings, and I havent been "properly" introduced I will post up my stuff in here. Ive got a heads/cam/nitrous 99 Trans Am 6 speed. Heres a little history of my car and build.

Last year on just bolt ons and nitrous the car ran 11.89's at 114.xx. One of the faster LS1 cars in Colorado, as shown by most ET lists. The car great and was a monster on the strip for having the mods it had done. Well, that was last season. This season I wanted to go bigger and badder and have a fast car.

So earlier in the year I purchased some PRC heads and a custom grind "A.I.R." cam spec'd out by Clint. After an anxious 2-3 week wait for the parts they all made it in. I must say, for spending as much as I did, I save a good $150 or so :dontknow:. Well I got the torn apart and everything installed correctly and the car ran pretty decent. For the cam size it really needed a tune, badly.

I put maybe 150 miles on the motor, no high rpm driving at all since I knew it would starve for fuel badly and didnt feel like buying anymore parts. Well on my way up to Denver to get it tuned, I heard a terrible loud knocking sound. Seriously sounded like rod knock to quite a few people including myself. Long day that was. But got to eat a fantastic hamburger at a jewish deli (cant recall the name, but wow Id drive up there again for one).

After getting the car home I pulled the valve covers and noticed that the #6 exhaust rocker was broken off and laying there. Well, this was not a good sign because a few things could have caused this and not knowing what did it was a nightmare. So I took the head to a machined shop to have the broken rocker bolt milled out. While there, I knew the owner for 14 years or so, he said the cam had too much lift and caused the pushrods to over extend the rocker breaking the bolt.

Well, after pulling the heads and seeing that all 8 pistons had nice little half moons on them...You know the obvious valve touching piston half moon. I agreed with the machine shop guy and looked more into the valves and saw that they had made contact and it was just recent. So I called Clint at A.I.R. to tell him of my experience and we had a somewhat lengthy conversation. During that conversation he said, "what you can do is where the valves touched, you can take a dremel and sand down to give you more clearance.". Then I was told I would have to buy another cam at half off his regular pricing. Yipppeee, I get to tear down a top end, again, buy new fluids, and the other petty things that go with it..But by doing this I get half off a cam!:adore: to this deal.

So I called another tuner/builder and discussed other options and had a new cam spec'd out. Got it installed, no touching or binding in the valvetrain. And the car ran stout without a tune, which I got soon enough. Well, to the dyno time. The car was running great but I had some problems with my car. All in all the car made 442rwhp and 46Xrwtq with a slipping clutch that literally smoked on the dyno. Besides the clutch going out (which a brand new spec 3+ is going in as we speak), the PCM decided to take a dump. Looks like the factory wiring from GM isnt as good as we all thought :help:. But my new tuner/builder has been wonderful and made up for the originals short comings.

The goal for the car is to have the fasted 6 speed in colorado, and I will give my car hell to get it done. Well, theres my LSX life story, hope to see quite a few of you up at Bandi when I get kicked out for not having a cage and going too fast :driver:

PS should I post a mod list?:dontknow:

[Doric]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/224/497171101_270696d97a.jpg

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, but best of luck in the coming season. Hope to be there with you in the 11s.

[99Superhawk]

With your F/I power Im sure youll be very close.

ps...shooting for 10's. :)

[Doric]

With your F/I power Im sure youll be very close.

ps...shooting for 10's. :)
Damn you bottle babies. :)

[99Superhawk]

Damn you bottle babies. :)

lol I wish it was boost!

[Doric]

Let's put your bottle on my car and I'll let you drive it. :lol:

[99Superhawk]

lol Id be down for trying. Your car with boost and nitrous would be one hell of a monster.

[Doric]

I don't think we'd get 60ft. out before the entire rear sub-frame exploded. :)

[99Superhawk]

I don't think we'd get 60ft. out before the entire rear sub-frame exploded. :)

lol I think with that much power it may roll a bit farther than 60'. Not by much tho, lol!

[Clint@A.I.R.]

Ahh Brandon, Paintball, i guess I'm not surprised. Weren't you banned from Co-LSX due to online drama like this, not to mention your the reason that it was shut down with your complaint after you were banned?

I see you failed to mention I was the one to helped you be one of the fastest stock motor LSX in the area with your 11.8 1/4 mile run, and thanked me immensely for that, back in the day. You also failed to mention you didn't follow my instructions on proper install of the heads / cam in your car with not using the head gaskets I recommended. You also failed to properly check for PTV clearance by not using a solid lifter. Even though you have expressed no blame on me when we have talked on the phone and in PM's in the past, you continue to come out of the woodworks and try to publicly point the finger on me when it was clearly your fault as the engine builder and the person who didn't follow instruction.

Brandon, either you stop these public displays of bashing, and bad mouthing behind backs and take any problem you might have to a PM or phone call to me. Or perhaps Brandon it's time we talk face to face, Colorado Springs is a short trip away for me, yeah perhaps it's time. You let me know in a PM, the public no longer needs to see this crap, and is quite tired of it I'm sure.

[RS_SS69]

Ahh Brandon, Paintball, i guess I'm not surprised. Weren't you banned from Co-LSX due to online drama like this, not to mention your the reason that it was shut down with your complaint after you were banned?

I see you failed to mention I was the one to helped you be one of the fastest stock motor LSX in the area with your 11.8 1/4 mile run, and thanked me immensely for that, back in the day. You also failed to mention you didn't follow my instructions on proper install of the heads / cam in your car with not using the head gaskets I recommended. You also failed to properly check for PTV clearance by not using a solid lifter. Even though you have expressed no blame on me when we have talked on the phone and in PM's in the past, you continue to come out of the woodworks and try to publicly point the finger on me when it was clearly your fault as the engine builder and the person who didn't follow instruction.

Brandon, either you stop these public displays of bashing, and bad mouthing behind backs and take any problem you might have to a PM or phone call to me. Or perhaps Brandon it's time we talk face to face, Colorado Springs is a short trip away for me, yeah perhaps it's time. You let me know in a PM, the public no longer needs to see this crap, and is quite tired of it I'm sure.


You might want to talk to Dan about the real reason the board got shut down cause only he knows the truth and it was NOT a complaint nor Brandon! Also what are you going to do in person? Beat him up or what just more stuff to come out in public forums, welcome to the world of being a man and having cars as a business or hobby.

[99Superhawk]

Ahh Brandon, Paintball, i guess I'm not surprised. Weren't you banned from Co-LSX due to online drama like this, not to mention your the reason that it was shut down with your complaint after you were banned?

I see you failed to mention I was the one to helped you be one of the fastest stock motor LSX in the area with your 11.8 1/4 mile run, and thanked me immensely for that, back in the day. You also failed to mention you didn't follow my instructions on proper install of the heads / cam in your car with not using the head gaskets I recommended. You also failed to properly check for PTV clearance by not using a solid lifter. Even though you have expressed no blame on me when we have talked on the phone and in PM's in the past, you continue to come out of the woodworks and try to publicly point the finger on me when it was clearly your fault as the engine builder and the person who didn't follow instruction.

Brandon, either you stop these public displays of bashing, and bad mouthing behind backs and take any problem you might have to a PM or phone call to me. Or perhaps Brandon it's time we talk face to face, Colorado Springs is a short trip away for me, yeah perhaps it's time. You let me know in a PM, the public no longer needs to see this crap, and is quite tired of it I'm sure.

Im glad you arent surprised. And no I did not get banned for voicing my oppinion about your shady work and lack of knowledge on an LSX based motor. But dont worry Clint, I am voicing my opinion right now. So please learn the facts before you open your mouth. It was shut down for other reasons, maybe Dan will inform you one day and put an end to your ignorance.

All you did was throw a tune on my car. You didnt do ANYTHING else. So If you want take credit for my labor then I guess your going to do that. Again, all you did was a tune. I did the install on all of my parts, you did not. And I did thank you for the tune, as it did help me. But that was then, this is now. Get over the past as you have said and move on.

Your instructions on the cam install? Well Clint, what are those instructions? You sure as hell didnt give me any. Even if you did, I wouldnt have followed them, I mean you did tell me to DREMEL a piston for PTV clearance. And I used the same Cometic gasket I purchased from you in the same purchase as the heads and cam. So if that wasnt the correct gasket then why did you order it? You as a "builder" should have know differently.

I clayed the pistons and it was fine. I also love how you talk about the solid roller, you didnt know that until somebody else said it. But again, the cam YOU spec'd shouldnt have even had that problem if you knew what you were doing. But again, thats why you sold cars and parts and never really did any installs. Again, your too ignorant to realize its not the cam being too big that Im complaining about. But your FAULTY spec'd cam was too large and poorly spec'd. And yet you were going to make ME buy another one? That combined with your cam being too large makes me mad. You didnt man up and stand behind YOUR cam.

So here you are Clint, I do blame you for your terrible customer service and lack of knowledge costing me time and money on my car. You can cry wolf and blame me all you want, at the end of the day YOU ordered and spec'd that cam. Not me. I never did anything behind your back, I made it obvious in the open. Nothing about this was a bash, its truth and factual about what happened. I didnt have a problem with you as a person afterwards, but I saw time after time you get called out then cry WOLF to try and deflect the topic on hand.

And Clint, grow up. Take your threats elsewhere. If you want to talk, Ill be at dyno pro in December getting my build tuned by a competent tuner. Your more than welcome to watch. So Ill let you get back to messing up other peoples motors.

PS if you got me confused when I said the dremel story, how many people you tell to do that?

[Clint@A.I.R.]

You have a pm...

[99Superhawk]

And so do you.

[camaro408ss]

PS should I post a mod list?:dontknow:


I'd love to see a mod list...

[BFJ]

This thread has fail written all over it.

If everything was installed correctly, how did the pistons hit the valves?

What was the piston to valve clearence?

What was the ICL and ECL?

It's easy to point fingers at the shop that sold you the parts, but in reality it's Superhawk's fault he had all the problems. If he would have assembled it correctly, he would have found the clearence problems and exchanged the cam for one that fit his application.

[99Superhawk]

This thread has fail written all over it.

If everything was installed correctly, how did the pistons hit the valves?

What was the piston to valve clearence?

What was the ICL and ECL?

It's easy to point fingers at the shop that sold you the parts, but in reality it's Superhawk's fault he had all the problems. If he would have assembled it correctly, he would have found the clearence problems and exchanged the cam for one that fit his application.

:facepalm:

Go back and re-read because you have obviously failed at that. :shot:

[BFJ]

:facepalm:

Go back and re-read because you have obviously failed at that. :shot:

Why don't you answer my questions first?
Because you don't have answers!

[99Superhawk]

The cam was installed straight up like I was supposed to. Im not 100% sure of the intake centerline or exhaust centerline.

I do know the cam was also spec'd wrong. Was supposed to be on a 109 centerline, but cam in at a 106+3.

PTV clearance was if I do remember correctly 20-25 thousandths.

[RS_SS69]

This thread has fail written all over it.

If everything was installed correctly, how did the pistons hit the valves?

What was the piston to valve clearence?

What was the ICL and ECL?

It's easy to point fingers at the shop that sold you the parts, but in reality it's Superhawk's fault he had all the problems. If he would have assembled it correctly, he would have found the clearence problems and exchanged the cam for one that fit his application.





LOL same cam bent 2 exhaust valves in a diff motor with forged pistons and large valve reliefs, it was way too big period.

[BFJ]

The cam was installed straight up like I was supposed to. Im not 100% sure of the intake centerline or exhaust centerline.

I do know the cam was also spec'd wrong. Was supposed to be on a 109 centerline, but cam in at a 106+3.

PTV clearance was if I do remember correctly 20-25 thousandths.

If you would have degreed the cam, you would have known it was the wrong one, and saved yourself a bunch of headaches.

Do you know 99% of cam manufacturers and engine builders want MINIMUM .060 clearance?

Like i said, you made the mistake, but want to blame it on someone else.

[99Superhawk]

If you would have degreed the cam, you would have known it was the wrong one, and saved yourself a bunch of headaches.

Do you know 99% of cam manufacturers and engine builders want MINIMUM .060 clearance?

Like i said, you made the mistake, but want to blame it on someone else.

The cam was supposed to be installed straight up, because I did not want to degree it. That was one thing mentioned during the process.

And yes I know that the minimum is a lot higher than what I am at. I dont really care what is wanted by others, I wanted to go larger and this cam was supposedly "proven" already.

And like I have said, you obviously cannot read. So untill you do, you can leave this thread. Thanks.

[BFJ]

You really aren't very smart, are you?

[99Superhawk]

You really aren't very smart, are you?

lmfao... your a douche I do know that.

But Im new to things and arent scared to admit it. But I do know the came was incorrect. And as your too stupid to realize, my main complaint was having to buy another cam. When I shouldnt have had to. The new cam was correct, I installed it and it has worked fine. Because it was the correct sized cam. And Ive also been told I did one of the cleanest installs most people have seen.

[camaro408ss]

I hate to say this, cause i know im not the first... but isnt the past the past? I mean it sucks your car was down, and you have to do extra work on it...

"I dont really care what is wanted by others, I wanted to go larger"... all this telling me is that you took a risk on something that wouldn't work out..... When people say that you NEED a certain clearence, its pretty much more than a suggestion. In saying so, you "not caring," means that you dont care if damage is caused... Especially being "Im new to things and arent scared to admit it," you really dont have the right to be calling people "deuches" and bashing not only people's name, but their Businesses. You're the fist bad thing i've heard about Clint, and/or A.I.R.

Im also not trying to bash your name, at all, what-so-ever. You'll quickly learn that in the world of Machinests and Performance shops, People that take as much time as Clint does to make sure his former customers are happy dont come up very often.

With that said.... If you need any help building/specing/troubleshooting, or anything else with you LSX... Im more than happy to help. If i dont know the answer, i know the people that do.

[BFJ]

I hate to say this, cause i know im not the first... but isnt the past the past? I mean it sucks your car was down, and you have to do extra work on it...

"I dont really care what is wanted by others, I wanted to go larger"... all this telling me is that you took a risk on something that wouldn't work out..... When people say that you NEED a certain clearence, its pretty much more than a suggestion. In saying so, you "not caring," means that you dont care if damage is caused... Especially being "Im new to things and arent scared to admit it," you really dont have the right to be calling people "deuches" and bashing not only people's name, but their Businesses. You're the fist bad thing i've heard about Clint, and/or A.I.R.

Im also not trying to bash your name, at all, what-so-ever. You'll quickly learn that in the world of Machinests and Performance shops, People that take as much time as Clint does to make sure his former customers are happy dont come up very often.

With that said.... If you need any help building/specing/troubleshooting, or anything else with you LSX... Im more than happy to help. If i dont know the answer, i know the people that do.

Thankyou. It's about time someone gets it.

[INHUMAN]

As a member of numerous LSX forums, i see this type of post all the time. working in a similar market of the automotive parts industry, i can tell you there is alot that we as onlookers will not see or hear in regards to a transaction. trust me, ive been in the suppliers shoes before (Clint), and it can get ugly with some customers. im not taking sides really here, but sometimes a bad transaction is just that. the quality of service cant always be chalked up to one transaction of many done by a supplier. Ive done a little business with Clint, and he did a nice job. Thats my opinion, those who read can take or leave that. i cant speak to superhawk, because i dont know him and we have never met, so i wont say anything on that side.

SuperHawk, good luck with your goals on the car, and i hope you can get it done. i would also like to be in the ranks of F-bods running in the 10s and elevens. we will see in the next couple of years. see you guys on the mountain.

[99Superhawk]

Well since BFJ whats to be a dumb shit who cant read, Ill make this obvious enough so maybe even he can get the point. Here are the facts:

The cam was WRONG when received.

Then the customer was told to "dremel his pistons" for PTV clearance. But it seems everyone misses this point.

Then the customer was told to purchase another cam at THEIR own expense. Even tho the cam was WRONG.

And again, to help out the mentally challenged. Im not mad the cam didnt fit. Its the fact that I was told I had to buy a new cam because the first one was I guess an "ooops''. Secondly the shady information of having to dremel the pistons was very reassuring. Thirdly a company who specs out a cam should know better than to sell a cam that "may or may not" fit without a warning. If the cam is purchased under the intent that it was going to be installed with no adv/retard in timing and just straight up, the cam should be able to just be thrown in "straight up" and not degreed. So that isnt the builders fault. If the builder had any intuition to need to check things and they didnt, then I could see it being the builders fault. In this case it wasnt.

But whatever, you get wannabes like BFJ who think because they throw around terms like ICL and ECL they are the shit.

The last fact is, the new cam has the same ptv clearance but was ordered and spec with the proper centerline. And the car runs just fine with the same builder doing the work.

Inhuman, maybe we will meet at the strip this upcoming year. It would be nice to meet some new LSX owners up north as its pretty small down south.

[BFJ]

Well since BFJ whats to be a dumb shit who cant read, Ill make this obvious enough so maybe even he can get the point. Here are the facts:

The cam was WRONG when received.

Then the customer was told to "dremel his pistons" for PTV clearance. But it seems everyone misses this point.

Then the customer was told to purchase another cam at THEIR own expense. Even tho the cam was WRONG.

And again, to help out the mentally challenged. Im not mad the cam didnt fit. Its the fact that I was told I had to buy a new cam because the first one was I guess an "ooops''. Secondly the shady information of having to dremel the pistons was very reassuring. Thirdly a company who specs out a cam should know better than to sell a cam that "may or may not" fit without a warning. If the cam is purchased under the intent that it was going to be installed with no adv/retard in timing and just straight up, the cam should be able to just be thrown in "straight up" and not degreed. So that isnt the builders fault. If the builder had any intuition to need to check things and they didnt, then I could see it being the builders fault. In this case it wasnt.

But whatever, you get wannabes like BFJ who think because they throw around terms like ICL and ECL they are the shit.

The last fact is, the new cam has the same ptv clearance but was ordered and spec with the proper centerline. And the car runs just fine with the same builder doing the work.

Inhuman, maybe we will meet at the strip this upcoming year. It would be nice to meet some new LSX owners up north as its pretty small down south.

Whatever dude. When ever you think you are bad enough, make the call out, I would love to school your dumb ass on the street or the track. Your 11.8x's were pretty impressive back in 1989.

[94ltz]

Eh don't waist your time on him BFJ, i don't know ou but i'm sure you have better things to do than drag him down the 1/4 lol... He just talks alot of shit on the net and i'm sure he'll take a shot at me cause his favorit person messed up a car that i had to fix and yet after it was all said and done i dropped it but he cant seem to do the same with this situation. Maybe one day he'll grow up.

[99Superhawk]

Eh don't waist your time on him BFJ, i don't know ou but i'm sure you have better things to do than drag him down the 1/4 lol... He just talks alot of shit on the net and i'm sure he'll take a shot at me cause his favorit person messed up a car that i had to fix and yet after it was all said and done i dropped it but he cant seem to do the same with this situation. Maybe one day he'll grow up.

LMFAO tell your friend to go pay his bills then you can talk. Until then you can stfu and stop trying to act like a bad ass with a blown up ass car.

[94ltz]

LOL all his bills are paid and he got paid back to, hell he actaully just sold the bird so i don't have to work on it any more, and who said anything about my car being blown up or me acting like a bad ass, just stating the facts.

[RS_SS69]

LOL this thread delivers!

[datzneat]

Maybe one day he'll grow up.

:laugh::congrats:
That's a big maybe.

[99Superhawk]

Dont worry Jay, Ive grown up. Im not the one threatening people over $40 spark plug wires.

[mystictealz28]

Lol it was only $20 spark plug wires ha ha ha. Thanks for sayin it for me brandon. I kept my mouth shut but you said just what I was going to.

[datzneat]

Yea you know. I go out of my way to help you out by selling you msd wires for 20 and you can't even pay up in four months. Who's the lame ass now. It's ok you two were made for each other.

[mystictealz28]

Actually jay friends hook friends up of understand when things happen. And numerous times I offered to swing by a atm for you. You numerous times just said na its cool I will get it tomorrow. But you we're the bitch that cried about it and wanted to fight with my kids there with me. Real cool. Sorry your mom kicked you out for not being able to deep throat her huge cock. But I'm sure you will find another man back in cali to suck off.

[datzneat]

Oh yes. Please make shit up now. We all know how much you love lieing. Like how you lied about a broken part, waited for the new one to come in, never sent back the old "broken" part and claimed it was lost in shipping. How about you go get a real job. We all know the only skill you have is following Brandon around and licking on his tit. I feel sorry for your kids. Having a dad that never matured past ten years old is going to be hard on them. And don't give me that friend crap, selling them for 20 was the hook up. When you try to take advantage is when shit hits the fan. The really sad part here is that you had to get your cousin to pay me. Hahaha. I don't think I've ever met a bigger pair of losers.

[mystictealz28]

Wow jay you are the dumb beaner I thought you were. Beings I don't hang out with brandon and wasn't at the time either is funny. And no I had a friend bum me the $20 bucks to get you off my back. And 20 is what a used set of wires is worth... I don't see where the hook up was.

[99Superhawk]

Oh yes. Please make shit up now. We all know how much you love lieing. Like how you lied about a broken part, waited for the new one to come in, never sent back the old "broken" part and claimed it was lost in shipping. How about you go get a real job. We all know the only skill you have is following Brandon around and licking on his tit. I feel sorry for your kids. Having a dad that never matured past ten years old is going to be hard on them. And don't give me that friend crap, selling them for 20 was the hook up. When you try to take advantage is when shit hits the fan. The really sad part here is that you had to get your cousin to pay me. Hahaha. I don't think I've ever met a bigger pair of losers.

LOL. Please how am I the loser? I pay my bills, I dont rely on my mommy and daddy to pay for my stuff. But you sure dont have a problem with them doing it. I love how you say Nate licks my tit, when you sure as fuck ride a certain somebody's cock.

And I dont are where my dad stopped maturing. I dont give a fuck about that douche. But since your daddy has to pay your bills, I can see that being important.

Its alright, people may think Im an asshole and stuff. But I never got called a fag with an afro. Enjoy driving your car way under the limits of what it can do :turtle:

[Ibleed Z]

Its sad to see you(superhawk) contaminating another forum with your bullshit. Here we are trying to share interests in a lsx community and you have to paint your ingnorance all over it. It gets old. Please buy a honda and go jack up their forum. just my .02.

[99Superhawk]

Its sad to see you(superhawk) contaminating another forum with your bullshit. Here we are trying to share interests in a lsx community and you have to paint your ingnorance all over it. It gets old. Please buy a honda and go jack up their forum. just my .02.

Yet your first post is this useless shit? Pot meet kettle. GTFO noob.

[Ibleed Z]

Noob?...Ive been listening to your cry bullshit for a long while on colsx. Its been real old for a while.

[94ltz]

Noob?...Ive been listening to your cry bullshit for a long while on colsx. Its been real old for a while.

Hell i like this guy :shakehands:
It gets old really fast and to bring it to a new forum is retarded.

[99Superhawk]

Dont like it? Dont read it and GTFO NOOB.

[99Superhawk]

Hell i like this guy :shakehands:
It gets old really fast and to bring it to a new forum is retarded.

But fucktards like you 2 dont understand that I didnt start bringing in the old shit. But of course you 2 are just cock jockey e-wannabes who cant comprehend for shit. Oh well, Im just thankful I dont have to meet you 2, because I dont think I could stand it.

Funny how you cry more than most people do Brunza. You should do like your buddy and sell your car.

[Ibleed Z]

All right tough guy. When you become a man all start reading!

[ls2silvy]

Wow the drama lol! Clint has worked very hard to help with any thing i've ever needed or any of my friends and family as far as that goes! Great guy in my opinion. (that is all) :shakehands:

[99Superhawk]

All right tough guy. When you become a man all start reading!

Please keep the insults coming. If it wasnt coming from a child I would actually take what is said with more than a grain of salt.

I dont give a fuck if people have a good experience with Clint. Go start your own threads. I love how I point things out and it goes straight to making fun of me and calling me names when I didnt do shit to start it.

So to save the people who are going to come in and insult me, dont post and remember...Fuck you :reddy:

[94ltz]

Lol i love how you call every noob. You seriously need to grow up, and drop the past shit since your car is just fine now there really is no need to keep bringing the shit up.

[datzneat]

I didnt start bringing in the old shit.
Why don't you read your own thread.


LOL. Please how am I the loser? I pay my bills, I dont rely on my mommy and daddy to pay for my stuff. But you sure dont have a problem with them doing it. I love how you say Nate licks my tit, when you sure as fuck ride a certain somebody's cock.

And I dont are where my dad stopped maturing. I dont give a fuck about that douche. But since your daddy has to pay your bills, I can see that being important.

Its alright, people may think Im an asshole and stuff. But I never got called a fag with an afro. Enjoy driving your car way under the limits of what it can do :turtle:

Hahaha. Still talking about shit you know nothing about. Not that it's any of your business but I support my parents not the other way around. I moved back to cali to take care of my dad as he went thru kemo. Even though that's not what I hear about you. Staying with your girlfriend's ugly ass just cuz her family has cash... pretty sad. Then having half the shit on your car bought from the allowance your mommy gave you lol. No wonder it's all rednecked.

[94ltz]

But fucktards like you 2 dont understand that I didnt start bringing in the old shit. But of course you 2 are just cock jockey e-wannabes who cant comprehend for shit. Oh well, Im just thankful I dont have to meet you 2, because I dont think I could stand it.

Funny how you cry more than most people do Brunza. You should do like your buddy and sell your car.


Um who is Brunza on this forum, if thats who you think i am your way off.

[Ibleed Z]

I sense a tear.........again.

[99Superhawk]

Why don't you read your own thread.




Hahaha. Still talking about shit you know nothing about. Not that it's any of your business but I support my parents not the other way around. I moved back to cali to take care of my dad as he went thru kemo. Even though that's not what I hear about you. Staying with your girlfriend's ugly ass just cuz her family has cash... pretty sad. Then having half the shit on your car bought from the allowance your mommy gave you lol. No wonder it's all rednecked.

Good stuff coming from the homo with a fro. Man I thought after reading your post I had my story twisted, but you are just confused. I wish my parents paid for my mods, that would have been sweet. But I hate to burst your bubble and your pathetic attempt at an insult, I had to buy my parts myself. And yes my car is "rednecked" consider it has almost the exact same parts bought from the exact same place yours does. So what do you think about that? Dumb shit. So please try and take the same insult all the e-bitches use and GTFO.

LOL and you are talking about any sort of relationship thing makes me laugh. I remember you trying to pick up chicks down here and failed every time. No wonder you changed over to cock. But yet again, your just the gay guy. Ugly? Well maybe if you got pussy I would accept your opinion as truth.

Want to sell me some spark plugs for $20 so I cant pay you and you can threaten me? Because that would spice my boring weekend up. Oh but wait. You run your mouth behind peoples backs and not to their face. Gotcha.

[99Superhawk]

Um who is Brunza on this forum, if thats who you think i am your way off.

Well I got the names switched, your his "friend".

[94ltz]

Yep i'm the guy that got the pathetic 383 to make some power before Brunza sold the bird with the 383.

[99Superhawk]

Yep i'm the guy that got the pathetic 383 to make some power before Brunza sold the bird with the 383.

Cant go fast on a small ass budget like his was.

[94ltz]

Lol wow you really don't know the truth man, really you don't.. He never put a cap on his budget, when they asked for money he was there with in 48hrs to give them what they wanted. And if you want to talk about not being able to go fast on a small budget i'm sorry but my small budget car can run with the best.

[99Superhawk]

Funny you say he was there with the money...Seems thats what started his whole bitchfest. But whatever.

[94ltz]

It's funny cause he had the money the day he picked it up, he also had the money the day we went to get the dyno tune, he had the money to pay him off the entire time, But when we found that there were parts that were lied about, a poorly put together engine and a very under powered 383 he decided it was time to take action and not get taken advantage of which i'm sure any of us including you would of done the same.

[99Superhawk]

Hypothetically if this was the case, I would have given the chance to the builder to correct things. That choice was never given. Nor was the motor torn apart with legitimate proof of parts missing. Parts ordered were accounted for on receipts and on the motor.

Theres the difference between that situation and mine. Your builder was willing to do whatever was necessary to correct any "wrong doings"...My parts supplier wasnt. But I guess theres so many cock riding going on people cannot see this.

[DanDan]

Hypothetically if this was the case, I would have given the chance to the builder to correct things. That choice was never given. Nor was the motor torn apart with legitimate proof of parts missing. Parts ordered were accounted for on receipts and on the motor.

Theres the difference between that situation and mine. Your builder was willing to do whatever was necessary to correct any "wrong doings"...My parts supplier wasnt. But I guess theres so many cock riding going on people cannot see this.

Ever consider selling the cam before installing it especially knowing that it was the wrong one? Would have solved all your problems...

[AZ2ENVY]

For my lack of reading I apologize in advance . Paintball did you know that the cam was wrong before it was installed ? Just wondering .....

[Ibleed Z]

Could have used the recommended head gaskets and solved a lot!

[94ltz]

Actually the engine builder in this case was given the chance to fix it, after the horrible dyno runs and the car overheating the engine builder had the car another couple weeks to fix anything he needed to. And the engine builder him self wrote down the reciepts that were given to the customer which means the engine builder knew what was in that engine and tried to lie about it not once, not twice but many times and then admitted to it. we felt like we gave the engine builder enough time to fix the problems since he had it 4 months the first time to build it, than another couple weeks after he knew the poor numbers and in the end never did anything except not tell the customer when he took the car back to the dyno which he then told the customer he limped the car off the dyno and to the gas station cause he just made pulls on a new Walbro 255 and ran it very low on gas and out of gas when he pulled up to the pump.

Not sure how else Brunza could of handled the situation and getting the power that was first agreed on when we first dropped the car off which was 400 whp. when the car was delivered the second time it failed to reach 300 whp and yet stock the car made 271 whp the summer before.

[DanDan]

lmao sweet new section just for pntball

[99Superhawk]

For my lack of reading I apologize in advance . Paintball did you know that the cam was wrong before it was installed ? Just wondering .....

No the cam was ordered "correctly" and was drop shipped to my address. The cam was ordered per the specs that were determined by Clint. But with the specs of the cam it would have never worked because it was done on the incorrect centerline.

Headgaskets would have fixed the problem somewhat. But they would have had to have been quite a bit larger than the .040's that were on it and spec'd out as well by Clint.

If I was to sell the cam I wouldnt be able to sell it for anywhere close to retail which is pretty much what I paid. So why should I have to sell an almost $380 cam for $250-$300 and pay the difference?

After a proper install, the cam was found to have been not usable.

[AZ2ENVY]

I gotcha . I would have been pissed as all hell too !

[99Superhawk]

I gotcha . I would have been pissed as all hell too !

I wasnt really mad that the cam wasnt fitting because I understand stuff happens, but more so he wanted ME to pay for another one.

[AZ2ENVY]

I understand and agree with you not wanting to pay for another one. I wouldn't want to pay for another one either.

[Ibleed Z]

how long ago was this?

[99Superhawk]

how long ago was this?

Just as long ago as stuff Clint keeps bringing up. Thats why I brought this up if you would have noticed in other threads.

[Ibleed Z]

wow! no straight answers from you. only games. cool.

[99Superhawk]

wow! no straight answers from you. only games. cool.

WOW! more shit talk from you cool. I know how your answer would turn out either way, so I went with the one that would cause you to type less.

But it did happen this year dont worry.

[Ibleed Z]

Actually i wanted to know. Ive heard both sides. The only diffrence is ive heard clints side once. Ive heard your side 100x. And your side doesnt make sense MR. I build my own stuff( that i fucked up and decided to blame on someone else, but its the fastest anywhere). You provoke the shit talk.

[99Superhawk]

Actually i wanted to know. Ive heard both sides. The only diffrence is ive heard clints side once. Ive heard your side 100x. And your side doesnt make sense MR. I build my own stuff( that i fucked up and decided to blame on someone else, but its the fastest anywhere). You provoke the shit talk.

God your ignorance just gets annoying. When did this happen? Hmm, I dont remember the exact date but If I do remember right it was June or so. But for hearing my story 100x's you sure do know everything...

My assembly didnt fuck anything up. The poor specing of the cam/head gasket by Clint did. Thats fact and has been proven. So again you are incorrect.

I provoke the shit talk? My original post was truth, and nothing false or made up in it. How does the provoke people like you coming in here and insulting me within their first post?

And out of curiosity how does my story not make sense?

[Ibleed Z]

Who installed it? Its up to the builder to check everything correctly(solid lifter). If you go on what other people say this will not be the last time we see a river of tears. Research before you install otherwise leave it to the professionals. This is not the first time ive posted on this. Insult for insult.

[Clint@A.I.R.]

I'm only posting in here to further clean up some facts.

1st. The original cam was not a strange, unusual cam, it was the "CHAD CAM" 235/240 .647 .609 109LSA. Works just fine on 10+ cars in the surrounding area.

2nd. The Cam was ordered correctly, I'll say that again as I stand behind my word, "the cam was ordered correctly". Now if it came in with a 106ICL or (+3 advance, as mistakes in the ordering process might happen), i'm sorry as an engine builder, thats something I would have caught before an install. As that would not have matched what we have talked about, and or what was on email. I have email documentation to back all this up.

3rd. You asked for maximum compression, as you said "I want the biggest cam and the most compression possible". So for your stage 2.5 heads this would have meant milling the heads 30/1000's or 59cc chambers. Knowing clearance was an issue with the bigger 2.02 valves, I had the heads only milled aprox 5/1000's to get from 63 to 62cc's. Further more, I strongly recommended Stock Gaskets, .054", you said on the phone to me I will chance going with the .040" cometics, so I ordered what was wanted.

Fast forward 2 months, after phone calls that his install is going well, and that he clayed the pistons and "does not have PTV issues", Install was complete by him around april 09'. After some miles, #6 rocker bolt broke due to the fact the valves were tapping the pistons. I feel if he would have caught the +3 deg advance, or ran with with what I recommended gasket wise he would have been fine..

Talking on the phone, I initially offered to pay for 1/2 the cost of a new cam. That same day, or the next I called back and said I'll pay for the whole cam, in exchange of the one you had before, you were happy about that. We met in Castle rock and you gave me the old cam after you received the new one at no charge, how easy you forget this. The new cam that the customer received was speced out by "me", no one else, "me", not the new engine builder. It's similar but slightly smaller. Now weather the cam was installed by stock gaskets or the .040" cometics is a mystery to me, cause since we met to exchange the cam, he didn't return my phone calls, texts or pm online. I did get one sometime in June stating he does not blame me for anything. That evidence is now gone as Co-LSX is gone...

My purpose to post again in this now Drama forum, is to give facts, not further ad fuel to the flame. I feel bad about the situation, and sorry that Brandon went through what he did. I'm also sorry I lost him as a customer, because I do care, but I still feel I did not do any wrong doing. And the fact that the customer thought that there was no follow up, is because he never returned my texts or phone calls. Customer satisfaction is very important to me! And I go out of my way for people.

Clint

[Ibleed Z]

hasn't this cam been used in many Ls1 applications? why are you the one who had a problem.

[99Superhawk]

Who installed it? Its up to the builder to check everything correctly(solid lifter). If you go on what other people say this will not be the last time we see a river of tears. Research before you install otherwise leave it to the professionals. This is not the first time ive posted on this. Insult for insult.

The cam was an "off the shelf" grind and "has worked before". So I would have had no inclination to think otherwise and do things another route. Its like buying the MS3 or TorquerV3 cams. They are "off the shelf" and "have worked before" cams, no need to degree them, or even go the solid roller route for PTV.

So if I was to buy a set of headers from QTP and they dont line up right and cause a leak, its my fault? No because the product was defective in one way or another not up to the installer.

[99Superhawk]

My purpose to post again in this now Drama forum, is to give facts, not further ad fuel to the flame. I feel bad about the situation, and sorry that Brandon went through what he did. I'm also sorry I lost him as a customer, because I do care. Customer satisfaction is very important to me! And I go out of my way for people.

Clint

We can beat this dead horse for days and months on end. I will cut through the meat of your post and say this is what Ive been waiting months to hear.

We have our differences and Im sure we will continue to disagree on how some of the stuff happened. And I understand nothing can/will change what has happened because of this.

hasn't this cam been used in many Ls1 applications? why are you the one who had a problem.

The same cam had the same problem on another car. Its the ICL that is out of skew that caused this problem.

[Ibleed Z]

Internals VS. externals. externals- to be installed by a installer. Internals- to be installed by a professional. Looks like a installer dipped his hands in the wrong pot.

[99Superhawk]

Internals VS. externals. externals- to be installed by a installer. Internals- to be installed by a professional. Looks like a installer dipped his hands in the wrong pot.

Not really. The newest cam works just fine when it was ordered correctly. But whatever, your childish shit is just going to go back and fourth with the same stupid insulting implements.

The car will run 10's this year. And I can say that I built it. And I guess even somebody dipping their hands in the wrong pot can get something right.

[Ibleed Z]

Installers become professionals. The only diffrence is most installers dont publicly bash professionals for the installers mistake. Live and learn. Good luck with your 10's!